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Listen to a Huge Collection of Leslie Walter Flint Independent Direct Voice Recordings ((Spirit Communicators from the Afterlife Describe their Lives in the Realms of Spirit))
There are so many individuals alive today still wondering whether there is life after death, and if there is, what sort of afterlife is it? How can one be sure of the information available today on such controversial subjects as this one?
The Leslie Flint Educational Trust provided a massive collection of absolutely genuine and lengthy (some lasting up to 50 minutes) paranormal voice recordings taped by George Woods, Betty Greene and many others from the mid 1950’s to early 1990’s. After extremely carefully analyzing all their work and all other recordings, I have to say, they provide the most substantial and extensive breakthrough evidence for afterlife research ever. Before listening to any seance please listen to the introductory message by one of Mr. Leslie Flint’s sitters, Betty Greene. Also please listen to the recordings of radio programs, lectures, etc. explaining direct voice mediumship, and interviews with Leslie Flint which can all be found here.
One can also find an assortment of beautifully illustrated video recording uploads at The New Leslie Flint Educational Trust YouTube channel and more recordings (with much information about the spirit communicators) can be found at ADC Guides or a new website recently uploaded here to listen to the recordings. But before listening to any tape, please listen to this essential introduction to direct voice by Betty Greene (now on YouTube) right here.
It is best to keep an open mind and try to avoid any preconceived ideas, notions, and misconceptions, because direct voice mediumship is an extremely serious, delicate and intricate subject that very few understand or even take seriously. The dramatically varying paranormal voices have to go through several stages of thought to etheric to sound translation through the intermediary of ectoplasm before they can be physically heard and then recorded on tapes of varying quality. The original personalities, information, and various accents often come through extremely well, usually sounding similar to how the person sounded while still alive.
Many of the personalities that come through are often channeled through a spirit much closer to the Earth vibration, because the levels of vibration or spheres that they come from are often too far removed (out of range) from the vibrational level of the voice box. Rather like a relay system with Leslie Flint being the physical medium or channel on Earth, while possibly the spirit guide Dr. Marshall, and spirit control, “Mickey” (John Whitehead who passed away at age 11 near beginning of the 20th century) provides the mediumship on the etheric level. Spirits from much higher spheres can then communicate, however some of their original voice is lost. This is why many of the souls from the higher spheres may sometimes sound similar to Dr. Marshall or Mickey. The overall process is tricky and extremely complex. The astonishing thing is, is that we are able to hear anything at all, and that anyone in the world with a computer and an internet connection can now listen to a huge selection of them!
Still skeptical? It is an overwhelming tendency even among the most brilliant and professional scientific minds to completely dismiss a subject such as alien visitations or afterlife as completely false long before knowing anything about it. Such prejudice and ignorance is like the child who naively declares that science is completely false without first carefully understanding what science and the scientific method really are all about in the first place. Those who in a closed-minded way condemn a subject soley based on what far too little they know about it already are indeed ignorant in the worse way. “Condemnation without investigation” kills knowledge. I also find the long held, dark age Christian belief that spiritualism is the “devil’s work” equally irksome, absolutely non-scientific and frustrating. When it comes to realization of truth, especially regarding the afterlife, humankind has been extremely poor at it.
Independent Direct Voice Medium Leslie Flint (1911-1994) has to be one of the most authentic, most closely scrutinized, and verifiable sources of afterlife information ever, and was one of the most prolific mediums of the 20th century and the most thoroughly tested. I will explain to you why I think there is no way these voices could have been a hoax and why I am 100% convinced that the information that came through is real, verifiable and precise! You will see why it would be more incredible that they were somehow faked than actually be real souls speaking through in the candid, honest, from-the-heart, natural and casual manner that they had spoken in.
After very carefully listening to over 200 recordings (out of a collection of one thousand old tape recordings most of which are not yet available on the internet and taped by the sitters George Woods, Betty Greene and others from the late 1950’s to early 1990’s) and many more recently released, I can with 100% certainty guarantee that all of the recordings are of absolutely genuine people claiming to be dead! The whole effect is simply impossible to reproduce fraudulently. One would need numerous impossibly talented child and adult actors and actresses just to recreate these tapes without copying them! Quite ordinary and natural sounding disembodied personalities have been caught on tape! Regardless of the fact they were spirits or not, they were definitely real, sincere, honest-to-goodness sounding people claiming to be spirits from another existence, and definitely NOT actors and definitely NOT those attempting to contrive or fraudulently represent spirits. You must listen to all recordings carefully yourself to fully understand exactly what I mean and why I know they are genuine; by how the personalities presented themselves, how they sounded, the descriptions they conveyed, how they conversed very intelligently with the sitters, how they answered questions only the person would know, how some seemed to be able to read the sitter’s mind(s), how some were able to see things going in a completely darkened room and recount the events of the day only the sitter had known about, the 100% meaningful and inspiring spiritual subject matter and wisdom they eloquently expressed, their unique mannerisms, the heartfelt reunions of old friendships and loved ones, their genuine sense of humor and funny, eccentric quirks, the difficulties some had communicating, the limitations they faced, the odd and unusual effects caused by the ectoplasm they were using, the different accents, foreign and/or long forgotten dead languages and songs, and how they concluded their talks, etc. Even if somehow the voices were faked, how on this Earth would Leslie Flint get hundreds of 100% honest sounding actors and actresses to spontaneously come through out of thin air and correctly answer all questions from sitters and from audiences as large as two thousand people in lecture halls and theatres (such as Kingsway Hall) throughout the UK? Countless correct names and addresses of dead relatives were given, including countless details only the living individuals addressed would know about. If all the personalities were faked, where would all the “psychically gifted” (they would have to be!) actors and actresses needed to answer all the sitters’ questions come from? Then who paid all these actors and actresses to create these highly relevant and intelligent conversations with complete strangers for over a period of sixty years, even answering questions sometimes just before they were asked as if they were reading one’s mind and then often speaking at length about the importance of unconditional love, forgiveness, honesty, humanity, service to others, and an all embracing “Christianity” without any bias or dogma? Related information and movies can be found here: Life After Death Experiences and there is a new website up where one can choose from and listen to a huge selection of Leslie Flint Recordings. |
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Hello Russell
I love your new website! It is going to take me AGES to read it!
I read some of that first page though, and found it absolutely fascinating. Your thoughts on Leslie Flint are also my thoughts. Both he, and John Campbell Sloan, the Scottish direct voice medium who died in 1952, are my total proof of the existence of an afterlife, when all else seems to fail. Like Leslie, John produced some of the most fantastic direct voice phenomena, and never made a penny from his mediumship.
Your thoughts on reincarnation are many and varied. Have you ever come across the teachings of Sir Frederick Myers, given after he made the transition, and also Silver Birch? They advocate much the same as you would wish to believe – that our souls have many facets, much like a diamond, and our physical existence is only one of many facets on that diamond. All these facets are in different places, having different experiences concurrently. Frederick Myers also states quite clearly that he does not expect his ‘facet’ to have any more than ONE physical experience. In short, we do not return to earth time and time again (how utterly pointless that would be), but other facets of our soul diamond (I believe you call it the oversoul) may incarnate, and we can recall the earth experiences they have in the physical, as much as if they had been our own experiences. I think this is where much of the confusion lies – it’s reincarnation of sorts, but not as we know it!
It’s very hard for Spirit to explain all this to us in earthly terms. Because of the limitations of our physical brains, there will always be different interpretations of what Spirit is telling us.
I love your descriptions of the afterlife. They are very compelling. When I’m walking my dogs, I sometimes wonder if many descriptions of the afterlife seem too perfect to be interesting? I mean, I would hate a world where there is not the smell of freshly cut grass, or wet and semi-decaying leaves on the ground, giving off all their different colours and earthly smells. I think, also, it would be quite boring to not be able to see a thunderstorm, or a heavy snowfall, and instead to have the same, perfect temperature all year round.
Do you think they make movies over there? They have movie theatres, so do they watch our movies, or make their own? Also, do you think they have TV or the internet. I am assuming that, as we evolve technologically, so do they. So if we have something like internet, they must have it too? Spirit must implant the seeds of all this technology into scientists on the earth plane, in order for them to ‘discover’ these things. It’s a very interesting subject. My 19 year old son just passed, and I often wonder, as a mother, what he fills his time with. Much of our time is taken up with cooking, preparing and eating food, and also sleeping, none of which they need to do! I read one of the great medium Anthony Borgia’s books once, and the deceased priest who wrote this book through Anthony, says that you can’t even have games in the afterlife, such as tennis, because there ‘gravity is different and such pastimes would not work’.
Very interesting discussions, all of them. I am primarily interested in what Spirit does to occupy their time, because I am sure that, on the planes nearest to us, where most of us will pass to when we die, it’s just like earth, and they can do ALL we can do, and more, including watching TV and internet. My question is, whose internet and TV are they watching, ours or theirs?
Many thanks for this interesting site!
Vanda x
Wow, what a wonderful post! Thanks for your compliment regarding one of my websites!
As far as being able to enjoy the smell of freshly cut grass, or wet and semi-decaying leaves on the ground, heavy snowfall, thunderstorms, being able to play tennis, surf the internet, etc. in the afterlife, you need to understand that the afterlife is FAR more than just an afterlife. There are many, many levels of vibration accessible from the astral vehicle in this Greater Realm or Greater Life. There are millions of civilizations both alien and human upon millions and millions of astral and semi-physical worlds. Astronomers say that around 80% of the universe is made of dark (invisible) matter. I believe this dark matter is all the astral and semi-physical worlds such as Bashar’s planet, Essassani (Place of Living Light) which is 500 light years away.
Some worlds are much more advanced than others and many worlds are just like Earth. Depending on what plane of vibration you are on, you will have access to all manner of experiences including EVERYTHING that you presently value and enjoy on Earth and things far beyond anything you can ever imagine at your present state of being on Earth! I know this is true because we all go there when we sleep, and I had a few very vivid astral experiences of brooks, trees, parklands, etc., and watched the sun rise from an astral plane that contained many natural dwellings built of materials from the natural surroundings right next to Earth’s vibration.
Earth is an extremely limited state of being, you are restricted here to a very narrow spectrum of reality and material existence. What happens after passing, one becomes free of this very narrow spectrum and is then able to have access to many more levels of vibration depending on personal degrees of involvement, education and evolution.
There are definitely thunderstorms, rain fall, snow fall, actual and completely natural ecosystems on the planes of existence closest to Earth and even on the mid astral planes there seems to sometimes be this sort of thing. Regarding Anthony Borgia or any other source of afterlife information one’s descriptions of the world or worlds they live in are bound to vary dramatically, because what is possible on one plane may not be applicable on another plane. Gravity and other laws of physics are bound to vary dramatically from absolutely Earth-like to very different depending on what level of vibration or type of existence the souls or spirits come from.
I always prefer to refer to Leslie Flint’s paranormal voice recordings; they are the most trustworthy, honest, and reliable source of information that I know of. Bobby Tracy, for example, who lost his life along with his mother in a terrible car accident when he was five years old spoke very casually and joyfully about going to school, drawing and perspective, learning to read, swimming, boat rides, playing cricket, football, dominos, taking care of animals, climbing trees, etc. in the afterlife. Believe me, the Greater Life is so completely and incredibly natural, you never ever should worry about losing anything you loved on Earth, but rather you should look forward to all the additional experiences and abilities you will get to enjoy, most of which cannot even be depicted or described on Earth!
All the best, Russell (Yogi Shaktivirya)
Russell
Yes of course you have my permission to use anything I write on your
websites. I find it fascinating that you have a very similar, although more informed, view as mine on all things afterlife.
I take on board all you say about there being many hundreds or thousands of planes of existence. I guess I am just thinking about the 7 planes of
existence of the Spiritualist philosophy many years ago. I take your point
that these spheres are sub-divided many times, and there are also other
spheres of existence on an infinite number of other planets. It’s truly mind-boggling.
It’s a bit of a worry that, what with there being so many planes (according
to your individual level of vibration etc.) we might not end up on the same plane as those of our loved ones when we die. However, reading and
listening to the Leslie Flint voices, it seems that we always end up close
to our loved ones, no matter what. They have said this many times in their testimonies through Leslie. So that’s a relief.
I am also interested in how quantum theory exactly mirrors what those of us
who believe in Spirit have known for many years – i.e. the different levels
of vibration of matter, and the proof of at least 2 (and maybe as many as
10) other realities etc. So science is actually validating what we know to
be true. Exciting times! Perhaps you have heard of Dr Robert Lanza’s
theory of Biocentrism, in which he postulates that Consciousness came first,
and then physical matter, and that consciousness built the physical universe
in order to have experiences, individualise, develop and evolve. This
echoes what I have read on your pages about the God force, or ‘all that
there is’. It is also in line with quantum theory and the fact that this
states quite categorically, and also proves time and time again, that
physical matter needs consciousness in order to make it exist. If particles
are unobserved, they do not exist except in a state of probabilities in the
form of waves, but if they are observed, the wave function collapses and
they are give a ‘reality’, so to speak. This has been proven in the famous ‘double-slit experiment’, where individual photons are bombarded against a
wall, through two slits in a partition wall (you may have heard of it – I’m
not very good at explaining it all as well as you can).
in any case, quantum physics recognises that we NEVER observe anything
directly in our physical reality – everything we see or perceive as reality
has first to go through our brains i.e. consciousness, before our eyes can perceive it and interpret it as our ‘reality’. Fascinating.
Sorry to have rambled on. I just find it extremely fascinating that
mainstream science is coming up with proof of all this stuff which we have
known about for so long. I do hope science one day loses it’s prejudices
and joins forces with Spirit.
Two websites you might find interesting:
Dr Melvin Morse (he is a medical doctor – paediatrician – who is gradually acknowledging his spiritual side, and who did 25 years of research into children’s NDEs as well as the existence of the ‘God Spot’, which he
postulates is, in fact, the right temporal lobe of our human brain):
http://www.spiritualscientific.com/
Dr Robert Lanza (he is Chief Scientific Officer of Advanced Cell Technology,
and Adjunct Professor at Wake Forest University School of Medicine):
http://www.robertlanza.com/
You should scroll to the bottom right of the first page to check out his Biocentrism theory, and also his Huffington Post articles, many of which
address the issue of life after death!
Regards
Vanda
Wow! Another great post from you. You definitely have a terrific understanding of the scientific (rather than religious) principles behind all afterlife and mystical truths which inspired all the great religions in the first place!
Consciousness is indeed part and parcel and quite possibly the origin of the very foundation of the reality we experience! After all, what is space? Space is the Oneness that underlies all creation, is the one true Substance of all things, and is filled with massive amounts of fully interconnected quantum (conscious) energy.
Russell,
Sorry to bother you again. I was just reading your Facebook page “Realms of the Afterlife” in which you list all the empirical evidence for the afterlife which scientists ignore. I wondered if you could include in your list Remote Viewing, and Controlled Remote Viewing. Even the US government have bought into this, and that psychotic skeptic James Randi has HAD to admit it works, but still says it’s not proof of an afterlife “because you have to have much more than that to prove something so big”. But, seeing as it works, it proves that there is a non-local reality, a Hall of Records, an Akashic Records, a place where everything that ever was, is, and will be is stored. Scientists who use RV don’t know where they get the information from – they just call it the ‘signal line’ or a non-local quantum reality. I suppose the spiritual among us would call the place that holds all this information simply “God”. When you have time, let me know your thoughts.
I did email Melvin Morse MD about CRV as he is a very proficient practitioner, and asked him his views on the afterlife, given his 25-year research into parting visions and NDEs. Although he acknowledged that NDEs and all spiritual phenomena are real, and not hallucinations, or the product of a brain deprived of oxygen, he told me he had not given much thought to an afterlife as such. He said he would do a CRV experiment with me whereby I would ask a question of my deceased son, James, and assign it a 9-digit number, and he would try to get the answer from James (wherever he is) by using CRV. He also said he would phone me. Alas, he is a busy man, and, despite two or three reminder emails, he has not contacted me again about it.
Nevertheless, if you read about CRV, and the fact that the US government has used it to train remote viewers during the Cold War, in order to locate targets from a distance, then I feel it is a very good source of evidence, or proof, that there is more to us than mainstream science thinks there is.
I also read something about David Thompson on your site. While I don’t know much about him as such, I did visit a site once in which he demonstrated at MJont Cabriol, in Spain. Apparently someone’s hand appeared (I think it was Einstein). Please see this blog by Michael Prescott:
http://michaelprescott.typepad.com/michael_prescotts_blog/2008/08/rethinking-david-thompson.html
I think some of the photos of ‘materialisation’ from David Thompson are completely laughable. I remember seeing this materialised ‘hand’ being placed on some sort of wooden plate and being slid out from the bottom of the cabinet curtain, so that up to the wrist was visible. It was so obviously someone crouching behind the curtain putting his hand out of the bottom of the curtain. But everyone in the room was ecstatic about it. They were hailing his materialisation talents as though he was the next best thing to God. It made me think “Are we really so gullible, as spiritual people, that we unquestionably believe stuff like this, just so we can provide ‘proof’ of the afterlife to others?” I mean, come on, it WAS laughable, as are many of the photos of Helen Duncan’s mediumship, and she is also seen as one of the best materialisation mediums ever.
Don’t get me wrong. I believe in this stuff, but to me, dodgy photos such as this don’t provide proof and all they do is open all of us to ridicule and derision. They give skeptics ammunition with which to say to us “You believe in THIS?” and they end of dismissing all the true evidence of the afterlife that we do have.
Again, when you have time, your thoughts would be very much welcome.
Regards
Vanda
Dear Vanda,
I was very skeptical about David Thompson at first as well. Not so much about the ectoplasm photos because I was not paying much attention to those; I know photos of a paranormal nature (such a UFO videos and photos) can be easily faked or misinterpreted.
Instead I paid close attention to the seance recordings. At first I thought they sounded rather fake or stilted in comparison with Leslie Flint. However after much closer investigation and very careful analysis of many more David Thompson recordings, photographs, and increased awareness of the true nature of physical phenomenon, I am no longer skeptical of David Thompson or anything that comes from him.
Regarding your statement, “Are we really so gullible, as spiritual people, that we unquestionably believe stuff like this, just so we can provide ‘proof’ of the afterlife to others?” I simply don’t have much time for questioning whether such photos are real or not, I simply want to manifest these types of experiences myself, and then know for sure that such phenomena can actually happen or not. I would rather not invest too much of my time or energy to deciding either for or against anyone else’s photographic evidence. The universe is far too complicated for us to ever realize and all too often many steps ahead of our limited understanding and sense perception.
I personally had a “hand” materialize in my own bedroom while I was asleep during the night that tapped me awake on my left shoulder only a week or two after my mother passed away from breast cancer in December of 1991. Such things would be almost impossible to photograph because one always needs a light source to get the image, and any sort of light is completely detrimental to the ectoplasm.
Ectoplasm is an extremely rare substance that requires an enormous amount of careful preparation from both sides of life. The creation of this substance involves the pancreas in combination with whatever substances the spirit entities can find on the other side. This glandular excretion must come out of the medium’s mouth or other locations of the body before it can be used. Ectoplasm is a poorly understood topic that is naturally widely subject to derision, ridicule and sometimes even disgust.
You mentioned remote viewing. Yes I did include remote viewing as evidence of consciousness outside the body, but apparently not on the afterlife group page, probably because it may have been removed when FB forced me to “upgrade” the group. I mentioned remote viewing and even one of my own personal experiences in remote viewing on several different places on my afterlife websites. The most detailed being on my “Total Astral Projection” page.
You are a brilliant person who certainly would never leave behind the scientific method of understanding spiritualism which is indeed a rare and refreshing way to approach Spirit. I would try to achieve as many personal experiences as possible and know for sure within your self that not only is there is a Greater Life beyond this one, but also that there is a whole universe of infinite love and joy to realize behind your closed eyes.
All the best,
Russell (Yogi Shaktivirya)
Thanks Russell.
I take on board everything that you say. My trouble is that I have been a Spiritualist for 25+ years, and you no doubt will know that everything we do within the Spiritualist philosophy is geared towards proving, and providing evidence of, survival. This is precisely what the late, great Arthur Findlay wanted his home, Stansted Hall, to be used for – he envisaged it as a research centre of sorts, where science could work together with Spiritualism in order to provide proof of the afterlife, but unfortunately the SNU had other ideas for it
I also take on board what you say about gaining as much personal experience as I can. At the moment, try as I might, I can’t seem to come up with anything. I think my right temporal lobe is well and truly blocked off, and I can’t release it. I have tried meditation, sitting for hours in a psychomanteum, and ‘Spirit in the Glass’. It is only when my daughters are present that the latter works. I don’t seem to have a psychic bone in my body, despite being a Pisces, famous for intuition. The only intuition I ever had was that, on a soul level, I just KNEW James would die young, and I was so protective of him. I can’t explain it – I just knew.
Only my daughters have received ADC communication from James in the form of dreams, although I did have one very short dream where he was lying on a couch and I cuddled him, and remembered exactly what he was wearing. Then it immediately became a lucid dream, in which I started babbling “Oh, this is my ADC – a dream with you, James, thank you so much, thank you so much”, at which point I was happy and woke myself up! (I had been nagging for him to come to me in a dream for some time at that point, and was almost giving up).
Keep on the good work Russell. I have read lots of your posts on astral travel and lucid dreams and they are fascinating. I only wish I could do them like that! I always wondered about dreams, and whether we visit the astral planes every night. In which case, can I assume that our ‘dead’ relatives get to see us wandering around their plane of existence in some sort of dream state each night? Very compliated!
Much love
Vanda x
Dear Vanda,
Yes of course proof of the afterlife is usually the first thing everyone looks for. As you know I am pretty convinced there is an afterlife so I already have my own personal proof. Then there are many other very important issues too, such as what the afterlife is like, are there communities, animals, landscapes, bodies of water, space, time and distance, and do we reincarnate, etc? And finally last but not least is the essential knowledge regarding what is the real meaning of life (from the perspective of Spirit). The messages from the highest souls are loud and clear, which state that we must love one another unconditionally and lose one’s selfishness to the service of others.
Even in my case, it is very rare to have an experience such as an astral projection, lucid dream or an ADC. They are also extremely spontaneous, and nearly impossible to create, predict or try to make happen. However I learned a lot over the years how nutritional supplementation can help. I also use fasting, meditation and celibacy, but I am sure not everyone would go to the extremes I go to. I really long to do a lot more research into this field, but am extremely frustrated for lack of money.
Everyone is quite different too, and how our brains are wired and what genes we express seem to have a huge effect. Well at least you managed to have one ADC from your son. What a treasure that must be! The energy of young people such as your daughters can help a great deal to provide a bridge between the consciousness of this world and the consciousness of the next as well as actual physical phenomenon.
Can I again post your last two letters on one of my afterlife websites?
All the best, Russell (Yogi Shaktivirya)
Vanda: Yes of course, as I said, feel free to use any of my rantings on your site! Many thanks
Just a thought, Russell. Have you heard of EMDR being used to induce ADCs?
http://chicagoiands.org/Induction_of_ADCs_html
This chap, who is a psychiatrist and grief therapist, reckons he can induce them by REM (rapid eye movement) which we use in sleep, to enable us to dream. It seems use of both eyes in this way makes both sides of the brain co-ordinate in a way that it allows spiritual experiences and rapid processing of information (which is what dreams also need).
No doubt you have already researched into this.
Much love
Vanda xxx
Wow, I just looked at the web page you gave me, and this material looks like it should be studied very carefully! Even if I might have seen or heard something similar to this approach before, I still have not tried out this method of ADC yet. Thanks so much for letting me know about it. I will give it a go.
Clearly you are an exceptional individual!
All my best to you Vanda!